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	[[Art & Language]] presented a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']] (2008). On the origins of the song, they state ~~that "~~the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"		[[Art & Language]] presented a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']] (2008). On the origins of the song, they state:

			<blockquote>
			[...] the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]
			</blockquote>

	The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in [[Art-Language New Series No. 2\|Art-Language, new series, no. 2]], June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in their series ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997).		The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in [[Art-Language New Series No. 2\|Art-Language, new series, no. 2]], June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in their series ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997).

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	[[Art & Language]] ~~present~~ a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"		[[Art & Language]] presented a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']] (2008). On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"

	The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in [[Art-Language New Series No. 2\|Art-Language, new series, no. 2]], June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] discussed their disagreement ~~further, using~~ the "girl-with-a-typewriter" ~~phrase,~~ in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' ~~(2007)~~.		The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in [[Art-Language New Series No. 2\|Art-Language, new series, no. 2]], June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in their series ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997).

			Art & Language, letter to ''Art Monthly'', May 1997<ref>https://www.proquest.com/openview/00b3548c6c5d35c14595a1dfd93cdece/</ref><blockquote>Mick Finch claims that Art & Language 'allowed themselves to be savaged by Rosalind Krauss' without responding ('Art Inc.', ''AM'' Correspondence, March 1997). Rosalind Krauss's article, 'Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel,' was published in French in ''Art Press hors-série'' No 16, 1995. We leave aside the issue of whether Ms Krauss's attack on Charles Harrison, ''Art in Theory'', the Open University, the BBC and Art & Language can properly be considered a savaging of Art & Language or of anything else. The fact remains, however, that there was no opportunity to publish a response until the subsequent ''hors-série'', No. 17, 1996. If Mr Finch consults that issue he will find a text by Baldwin, Harrison, Ramsden and Wood ('Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé') which should more than satisfy his inclination to play the ''sportif Récamier''.</blockquote>In 2007, [[Art & Language]] again discussed their disagreement with the "girl-with-a-typewriter" in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]''.

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	[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"		[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"

	The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in Art-Language, new series, no. 2, June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] discussed their disagreement further, using the "girl-with-a-typewriter" phrase, in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007).		The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in [[Art-Language New Series No. 2\|Art-Language, new series, no. 2]], June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] discussed their disagreement further, using the "girl-with-a-typewriter" phrase, in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007).

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	[[File:Sighs-Trapped-by-Liars-Krauss.jpg\|thumb\|upright\|[[Art & Language]], ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars\|Sighs Trapped by Liars (Rosalind Krauss)]]'', 1996<ref>https://www.roseberys.co.uk/a0466-lot-492656</ref><ref>https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Sighs-Trapped-By-Liars--Rosalind-Krauss-/E06F27B6A003DC94</ref>]]		[[File:Sighs-Trapped-by-Liars-Krauss.jpg\|thumb\|upright\|[[Art & Language]], ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars\|Sighs Trapped by Liars (Rosalind Krauss)]]'', 1996<ref>https://www.roseberys.co.uk/a0466-lot-492656</ref><ref>https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Sighs-Trapped-By-Liars--Rosalind-Krauss-/E06F27B6A003DC94</ref> showing the first two pages of "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art"]]

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			[[File:Sighs-Trapped-by-Liars-Krauss.jpg\|thumb\|upright\|[[Art & Language]], ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars\|Sighs Trapped by Liars (Rosalind Krauss)]]'', 1996<ref>https://www.roseberys.co.uk/a0466-lot-492656</ref><ref>https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Sighs-Trapped-By-Liars--Rosalind-Krauss-/E06F27B6A003DC94</ref>]]

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	[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"		[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"

	The second verse, the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter," is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in Art-Language, new series, no. 2, June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref>~~. Copies~~ of ~~Krauss's~~ article ~~subsequently appeared~~ in ~~Art & Language's~~ ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] ~~discuss~~ their disagreement further, using the "girl-with-a-typewriter" phrase, in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007):		The second verse (the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter") is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in Art-Language, new series, no. 2, June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref> and they used copies of her article in ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] discussed their disagreement further, using the "girl-with-a-typewriter" phrase, in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007).

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	*[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"		[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"

	* [[Art & Language]] discuss their ~~disagreements with~~ "~~the~~ girl-with-a-typewriter" in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007)~~''.''~~		The second verse, the one about "the girl-with-a-typewriter," is directed toward art critic Rosalind E. Krauss and her article "Art & Language Turns to Painting, A Strange Quirk in the Fate of Conceptual Art" published in 1995<ref>Published as "Art & Language se met à la peinture; étrange aléa de l'art conceptuel," ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 16, 1995, pp. 54-58.</ref>. Art & Language published a response in 1996<ref>Published in abbreviated form as "Rosalind Krauss: un pétard mouillé," in ''Art Press'', hors-série, no. 17, 1996, pp.174-178, and in full as "Northanger Abbey," in Art-Language, new series, no. 2, June 1977, pp. 50-64</ref>. Copies of Krauss's article subsequently appeared in Art & Language's ''[[Sighs Trapped by Liars]]'' (1997). [[Art & Language]] discuss their disagreement further, using the "girl-with-a-typewriter" phrase, in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007):

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	*Art & Language ~~presents~~ a fictionalized discussion of ~~this~~ song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song]].		*[[Art & Language]] present a fictionalized discussion of the song in [[Art & Language Sings a Song\|''Art & Language Sings a Song'']]. On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"
	**On the origins of the song, they state that "the text took its shape from two distinctly related performances. One was a sort of doggerel rant from Bob Dylan ['I Shall Be Free No.10'] [...] and the other one was Ruby Wright's 'Three Stars.' [...] The record commemorates Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper [...] The refrain, which Ruby Wright sings in a sweet, slightly echo-assisted voice is apparently as far from Dylan's rant as you can go. They share a heritage, however, in the development of folk music, country & western, and the blues. The three stars are dead, killed in a plane crash in 1959. The four stars are not dead. They are presumably alive, even if they are fictious [...]"
			* [[Art & Language]] discuss their disagreements with "the girl-with-a-typewriter" in ''[[Albert, Joan and Sinbad]]'' (2007)''.''

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	* {{RLink\|Sighs}}		* {{RLink\|Sighs}} {{MediaLink\|YouTube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZyEGVcUYU}}
	** [[Elisa Randazzo]] - vocals		** [[Elisa Randazzo]] - vocals
	** [[Sandy Yang]] - additional vocals		** [[Sandy Yang]] - additional vocals

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	* {{RLink\|Sighs}}		* {{RLink\|Sighs}}
	** [[Elisa Randazzo]] - vocals		** [[Elisa Randazzo]] - vocals
	** [[Sandy Yang]] - vocals		** [[Sandy Yang]] - additional vocals
	* {{RLink\|Sings}}		* {{RLink\|Sings}}